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October 16, 2003
INTERVIEW: Red Bull HMC KTM's Ben Carlsonby
Chris Martin
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| Over the last four races, Carlson has
scored three podiums, a pole position, and a race win despite
the best efforts of the bevy of heavy hitters. |
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Brian J. Nelson photo
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While the hype of the inaugural season of the AMA Red
Bull Supermoto Championship has (justifiably) centered around huge
name participants such as Jeremy McGrath, Kevin Schwantz, Jeff Ward
and Mike Metzger, the series has already witnessed the emergence of
a number of breakthrough talents to get excited about.
Heading that list is Wisconsin-native Ben Carlson.
Despite getting off to a slow start in the season opener at Laguna
Seca, the 18-year-old Carlson is currently ranked fifth in the
Supermoto Championship and second behind fellow Red Bull KTM HMC
teenager Chris Fillmore in the Supermoto Unlimited standings.
Over the last four races, he's scored three podiums,
a pole position, and a race win despite the best efforts of the bevy
of heavy hitters the world was already well aware of.
Just a few months ago, Ben was a relatively anonymous
teenager from the Midwest, spending most of his free time hunting
and fishing whenever he wasn't on two wheels. Now he's on the verge
of becoming a household name to motorcycle racing enthusiasts across
the nation.
I think it's safe to say you've taken a lot of
people by surprise this year. Can you talk a little about your
racing background prior to moving into supermoto racing?
Ben Carlson: Sure. I just did a little bit of
motocross racing as an amateur, and then a year of amateur dirt
track. After that I got my pro license and did the national dirt
track series, but just singles, you know? That was it.
And how old were you when you first got into
racing?
About 13.
So just when was your introduction into the
whole supermoto world?
I think it was three years ago. I did one supermoto
up at Elkhart Lake. I did the first one of the year and that was it.
I actually worked with a guy (Glenn Curtiss) that was all into
supermoto, and he is the guy that runs the Superbikers2 Series
(regional supermoto series). So, he kind of got me into it.
After trying it that first time, did you think
right off the bat that this might be something that really suits
you?
No, actually I didn't. I did it that first time and
was like, 'Oh, that was kinda cool,' and then I didn't do it again
for the rest of the season. The next year Glenn offered me a bike,
and we went racing. I was still doing the dirt track deal so I was
really hooked on the dirt track thing then, and I didn't really
consider this to be anything major. Plus, it wasn't really big at
the time, you know?
Fast-forward a couple of years; do you now
consider yourself as a supermoto racer, first and foremost?
Yeah, for sure.
How did get noticed on a national level and
wind up on a factory KTM in the new AMA series?
Hmmm. Last year they ran this race called the 'Orange
Rotor' up at Elkhart Lake, and I rode one of Mitch Hansen's bikes up
there -- a Husqvarna. I beat Scott Russell, Mike Smith, and all of
those guys.
And Mitch lives pretty close by -- like an hour away
and his dealership is 15 minutes from my house, so we kind of knew
each other. He always said, 'If I can ever help you out, I will,'
and then the whole KTM deal came up this year and he said, 'Let's
test.' I did pretty well at the test, and he hired me.
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| "I'd say my strengths are definitely on the asphalt.
For some reason, I can really go fast on the asphalt. I think I have
a really good feel for the tires and stuff." |
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Ray Gundy photo
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How would you describe your riding style; what
areas do you consider to be your strengths and where do you feel you
still need to improve the most?
I'd say my strengths are definitely on the asphalt.
For some reason, I can really go fast on the asphalt. I think I have
a really good feel for the tires and stuff. I'd say I'm okay in the
dirt, but you can't really compare yourself to (Jeremy) McGrath and
those guys, cause they are so fast in the dirt.
As far as my riding style, I'd say it's like most
others, except I don't really slide much. A lot of guys like Casey
Yarrow slide a ton and I really don't do that. I kind of 'two-wheel'
it, you know?
Before you actually got out there and saw just
where you stood, would you have expected to be so strong in the
pavement?
Well, I knew I wouldn't be a real rocketship on the
dirt compared to those guys, but I rode a lot of asphalt in my time
coming up in supermoto racing. Like at Elkhart Lake, that's all
asphalt and no dirt. So I kind of knew how I'd do, but I wasn't sure
exactly how fast I'd be compared to everyone else.
You mentioned how quick some of those former
motocrossers are in the dirt; when you're hooked up with a guy, even
if you don't know who he is, can you guess what his background is,
for example, if he came from road racing or motocross racing, etc.
by his style and where he's quickest?
Yeah, you kind of can. But, sometimes it's hard to
say. Everybody has to ride fairly similar riding styles -- obviously
other than guys like Mike Smith who drag their knees, and you can
tell they're road racers.
Outside of (Jeff) Ward. I was surprised to see
him putting his knee down.
Yeah, me too. I don't know -- he just kind of started
doing that I guess.
Your teammate Doug Chandler has really taken
you under his wing and been a mentor to you this year, hasn't he?
For sure. Before the year, I didn't know him
personally, but I remembered meeting him in the pits as a kid -- as
a fan -- and I always liked Doug. And right from the first test
session, we kind of hit it off. I was asking him questions on this
and that, and from there we kind of developed a relationship with
him being like a teacher for me; not only with how to ride, but with
how to handle people, and the right things to do. He's helped me a
lot with making decisions and how to ride different ways and figure
stuff out.
When we're at the race track, we're like best
friends. We're always hanging out and talking.
That had to make the incident in Columbus all
the more painful (note: Ben and Doug were involved in a first corner
tangle in the Supermoto Unlimited final that resulted in a broken
leg for Chandler).
Yeah, I'm still bummed about that. It really stunk,
and you kind of blame yourself right away. I felt bad, but there's
nothing you can do about it, you know?
There are a number of big name racers with long
resumes out there. Considering the caliber of the competition, did
you expect to be running up front so quickly?
It's hard to say. That first round at Laguna I had a
bunch of bad luck, and I started to doubt myself after that. We ran
good at South Boston, and I kind of got my confidence back up. I
knew I could do well after that race, but I still didn't feel that I
had really proven anything because a lot of the fast guys like
McGrath had gone home after the race got pushed back to Monday. And
then Columbus for some reason, I just came to liking that track and
it was a little crazy. I have to admit I didn't expect to be going
that good, setting pole and everything.
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| "I don't know -- they just go fast (laughs). We go
into the corners and look the same, but we're just not as fast. I'm
not sure what it is, honestly," says Carlson of the European
competition. |
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I know just returned home from racing in
Belgium last weekend -- how did you fare?
Pretty good. I did the Guidon d'Or at Bercy, and we
got fifth and 12th. I was the fastest American, so that was cool. It
was a great experience because you get out with a lot of guys that
are way faster than where we're at in America at this point, and it
really makes you pick up your pace and learn a lot in a hurry. It
definitely makes you faster, and it was also cool to hang out with
all those world guys.
After getting a chance to run with those guys
who have been professional, world championship-level supermoto
racers for years, what would you say they are doing that makes them
so fast that maybe we're not seeing over here quite yet?
I don't know -- they just go fast (laughs). We go
into the corners and look the same, but we're just not as fast. I'm
not sure what it is, honestly. It must be in the middle of the
corner and coming out where they're way faster than we are. I'd say
that's the main difference. I think we come in just as hard, but
don't get into the middle of the corner nearly as well. They're also
really, really smooth.
Was this your first time racing overseas?
No, actually last year I went over and did that same
race. I didn't do nearly as well though. Last year I didn't even
qualify, and this year I qualified 10th, which was pretty good. It
was great to see so much improvement.
We're going to try to do some more races overseas.
KTM really likes that -- to bring guys over and help make them
faster. I think we might do another one yet this year.
How great is it to see the sport picking up
momentum and growing so quickly in America?
I think it's really cool. It's great because I'm
definitely a player in the whole deal, and I'm enjoying being part
of a really good team. It took a while to get it rolling, but it's
cool to see it all coming together, the teams all getting into it,
and all the stars taking part. It's great. |