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October 15, 2003
INTERVIEW: Red Bull HMC KTM team owner Mitch Hansenby
Chris Martin
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| Part of the powerhouse Red Bull HMC KTM Racing
team at the South Boston Speedway autograph signing. |
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Ray Gundy photo
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Wisconsnite Mitch Hansen is the man behind the
powerful Red Bull HMC KTM Racing squad that plays such an impressive
role at each AMA Supermoto event. With full KTM backing and a
wide-array of talent at his disposal, Hansen's team is arguably the
deepest and most professionally organized in the paddock.
And to think, just a handful of months ago, HMC
Racing was running ultra-trick Ducati 998RS Superbikes up front in
U.S. Superbike competition.
Recently, Mitch took the time to speak about the
transition, his team, and the sport in general.
It's been a wild year for HMC Racing, shifting
from Ducati Superbikes to the works KTM Supermoto effort. How are
you feeling about the move at this point?
Well, I'll tell you what, I was disappointed that we
couldn't continue with the Ducati Superbike team at first. I thought
we really proved ourselves last year. Although Doug (Chandler) was
hurt at Atlanta, and he wasn't up to speed for a while because of
his injuries, we still had three podium finishes. We finished second
at VIR and had a handful of fourth place finishes on top of that.
So, I thought we were really on the right track and that we deserved
another shot at being the Ducati team. Obviously, Ducati had other
ideas, and I guess we saw what the outcome of that ordeal was.
You know, I was sitting around in the wintertime just
wondering what I was going to do with my crew and pondering if there
was a future for the HMC, and the supermoto thing came up with Scott
Russell. We were just going to be a one-man team and go with that. I
thought that would be pretty nice, just to stay involved in racing
with a good friend of mine in Scott. Then he had insurance issue
problems and we couldn't continue with him.
But during that time, KTM had decided that the whole
supermoto thing was going to be huge in the United States, and I
think they were correct. They asked if I would consider running
their team, and I said 'Yeah!'
I've been involved with this for a long time in
Wisconsin. When Dale Corser, Troy's brother, was running for our Pro
Thunder team a few years ago, he got me involved in it. We were
going to go-kart tracks and just having a blast. I found out just
what a great sport this is.
I went over to Europe and saw just how big it was
over there. And normally what happens over there makes its way over
here, and sure enough, it is. I think we're just seeing the tip of
the iceberg now, and this sport is really going to explode over here
in the next year or so, especially after Vegas.
With the team pre-existing and coming from
another discipline, were there any particular aspects that might
have been made smoother, or more difficult, because of that compared
with building a team from scratch?
Actually, it was pretty simple. The cool thing about
it was, a lot of my crew had experiences other than just Superbike
racing and a few had already worked in supermoto before. Charly (Putz),
our engine builder from Austria, his friend was Eddy Seel's factory
mechanic at Husqvarna last year, and we brought him onboard. Just
the connections we've made the last few years have made things easy.
Yeah, we're working on a lot more machinery right now
-- we only had two Superbikes last year, but of course a Superbike
is a Superbike, and these are basically high-performance dirt bikes
with the good brakes and things. It was pretty easy, actually.
KTM has quite a bit of experience supermoto
racing overseas -- how much information have they been able to share
with your team, as far as settings and the like?
KTM has been just a phenomenal company to work with.
It's just been a handful of months we've been together so far, but
they brought Doug over, and we raced in the Czech Republic just to
get us and Doug experience over there. Doug then brought that back
over here to the younger guys on the team.
There's an open line of communication daily with the
race department in Austria. We've found some things that have been
useful to them, and obviously they have been a very useful resource
for us. The learning curve has been real quick. It's been fantastic.
With all of the tracks being so different from
each other, just how much info can be carried over from one race to
the next?
The nice thing about it is the tire selection, which
used to be such a big deal on the Superbike, is much more basic
here. We're sponsored by Dunlop, and they won the World Championship
with KTM last year, and the selection is easy. We use a 950 front
and a 555 rear -- sometimes a 701 on the rear. So there's not a lot
to worry about in terms of tire selection.
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| "I knew Doug is the professional's professional and
would always be competitive. He was getting faster and faster every
time out -- unfortunately he had the injury at Columbus and broke
his leg. He hopes to be back by Las Vegas." |
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Ray Gundy photo
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We have just adapted data acquisition onto one
of Doug's bikes, which Boris Chambon will use this weekend, which
has also helped with set-up.
As far as carrying things over from one track to
another, actually there is a lot. It's really not that difficult.
Basically, we set the bikes up for the pavement and try to survive
the dirt. We're always hoping that the AMA is going to hold to 80/20
-- a true supermotard track is 80% pavement, 20% dirt. If they do,
that makes it a lot easier for us.
Is it difficult to keep everyone happy and the
egos in check when running a large team?
You know what? I've got such great guys working for
me. Doug Chandler, Larry Pergram, Ben Carlson, who is an 18-year-old
phenomenon, and then you have a great rider in this young kid, Chris
Fillmore, who's just 16. Everybody gets along really well. The
experienced guys help out the younger guys, and the information is
flowing freely between everyone.
It's been a real great team effort, not only with my
riders, but with my whole crew. The neat thing about the format is
that we're going for a team championship and a manufacturer
championship throughout the course of the season. They realize it.
It's been pretty cool; we're actually working as a team.
Your riders have widely varied racing
backgrounds and experience levels. What qualities did you look for
when trying to determine whether or not someone would make a good
supermoto racer?
Well, Doug and I had ridden before and Supermoto'd
together, and I knew Doug is the professional's professional and
would always be competitive. He was getting faster and faster every
time out -- unfortunately he had the injury at Columbus and broke
his leg. He hopes to be back by Las Vegas.
And Larry, he's another true professional and a
talented guy. He's been involved in racing for many years in both
dirt track and road racing, and if you have those two backgrounds,
it's pretty easy to get into supermoto and be competitive.
And the two young guys, Chris and Benny, I had seen
at our local track at Road America, and these two guys were just
flying. I thought they might have some futures so we brought them to
our test. The Austrians were there along with representatives from
KTM North America, and they said we need some youth since KTM is a
big believer in bringing up young riders. So we took a gamble, and
so far it's really paying off.
Already we've had a nice mix of competition up
front between the motocross legends, the top road racers, and the
younger kids that have maybe been more focused on supermoto-style
racing the past several years. Do you see a shift more and more
toward the supermoto specialists in the future, or will the
multi-background guys that have been around a while be able to stay
competitive?
I think it's going to move more towards the
specialists -- the kids that have grown up racing this and decided
this is their future. Boris Chambon, for example, basically has been
just a supermoto guy.
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| 18-year-old Ben Carlson has been a
nice surprise for Hansen's team. He won the Columbus Supermoto
Unlimited race was leading the Supermoto race late until he
crashed under pressure from eventual winner Jeff Ward. |
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Ray Gundy photo
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You're seeing more and younger people --- they have
the Red Bull Youth Cup in Austria -- you have all these young kids
who are being brought up just as supermoto racers. They're just
starting to break into the World Championship now.
Now that we have a few supermoto races under
our belt in the U.S., has the series been developing up to your
hopes and expectations?
The future is going to be huge if it's done properly.
We and the AMA have to make sure this is done in a supermoto
fashion. I didn't feel that Laguna Seca was really a true supermoto
track -- that was a dirt track with a little bit of pavement. We
need to make sure that we stay with the 80/20 guideline. I've been
to two world rounds -- one in the Czech Republic and one in Austria
-- and they stay right with a true 80/20%. That's the way it needs
to be.
Also the tracks have to have the proper dirt. You're
running on slick tires that are cut -- a spectator really wants to
see the pavement. That's where it's all at -- that's where you see
the sliding and the backing-in and the hard braking. That's where
most of the racing and passing is going to happen. If you have too
much dirt, it just takes away from the supermoto format I believe.
Editor's note: While the 80/20 ratio of asphalt to
dirt is how they do it in Europe and it's purpose-built supermoto
tracks, AMA Supermoto is designed to be a different beast from the
start. As has been said all along, the mission of the series is to
go to urban settings, where traditional motorcycle racing has never
been. Given that mission, the race course often takes a shape that
is suited for the unique environment it is in.
Of the tracks we've visited thus far, which did
you feel was closest to the ideal?
I'd have to say South Boston. The dirt section was
nice before the rain, and we had plenty of pavement, including
places where the guys could actually open up these Open bikes.
I hear Vegas is going to be a true European-style
supermoto track. I'm looking forward to that.
KTM has recently announced that they are
planning a future in Superbike racing. Is that something you'd like
to be a part of?
I would say the Superbike future for KTM is a ways
down the road, and we're just enjoying this supermoto stuff so much.
It's really something special, and I'm really glad to be involved on
the ground floor. If the Superbike thing does happen with KTM, and
I'm a part of it, that would be great, but my crew, my riders, and
myself are totally satisfied racing in this new supermoto race
series.
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